Guf told the truth about the collapse of the Centr group. Ptah Biography - Collapse of Centr, Conflicts, Solo Work Ptah - Concerts in Donbass

​The day before yesterday Guf wrote on Twitter saying that he had heard rumors that someone wanted to challenge him to a battle. The first one that comes to mind, of course, is Ptah - a man who probably has a lot of dirt on his former colleague, a man whose career has been slowly sinking since the very first collapse of the Center. Last night, Bird finally went on the attack, waving his dirty laundry over his head.

Ptah always considered himself a kind of guardian of the truth in Russian rap, got involved in other people’s squabbles, and threatened offenders. It’s not surprising: Ptah at least positions himself as a man of “those times” - he has gangster friends, and he himself “only works,” and he himself is “for justice.”

However, David loves to hype. Here are a few examples offhand, so as not to be unfounded: then, declaring that there is no rap in it (we apologize, but who in Russia determines the degree of rap content - Ptah? And who endowed him with these powers?).

That : “We don’t sell out, don’t bend and don’t change our decisions. We are creating a real information portal about Russian rap, and not a public page in which everyone can post the products of their “creativity” for 2,500 rubles.”. Yeah, but soon a peace agreement was concluded with “New Rap”, and there was no information portal in sight. Are you not bending? Don't change your decisions? Exactly?

Ptah in terms of rap (and, probably, life views in general) is orthodox to the core. Well, perhaps this is even commendable - everyone has the right to their own tastes. One of the main (at least one of the most frequently repeated) postulates of that very “real” hip-hop is: “Hip-hop is beyond politics.” What about Ptakhi, who once decided to become a deputy from the LDPR party? And what about Ptah, who (like the majors? They checked their income, looked into everyone’s pocket?) and then? What about Bird, who? What about Ptakhi, who has visited Donetsk and Lugansk with concerts more than once? The casket simply opens: in those places where a normal artist would never go in life, Ptah is a star of great magnitude. Exchange full halls in Donetsk and Lugansk for several failed ones in Odessa, Kharkov, Dnieper and Kyiv? Yes, it’s easy, it’s hard to judge here, the mathematics is simple, but the politicians here are above the roof.

Do you remember how Ptah “declared war” on bloggers Khovansky and Larin? “We will eradicate clowns like Khovansky and Larin from our topic. These characters get into rap with their mommy and thereby kill the culture.” Although Larin never said anything about any mothers - the blogger even recorded a video message to Ptah to urge him not to resort to physical violence.

And last summer Ptah wrote that he “found someone who will have to answer my invitation to versus” - he called him a “jumper,” obviously. But why does he need this - he already has full halls all over the country.

Finally, in a recent huge interview, here's what Bird had to say about the battles:

- How do you feel about Versus Battle?

- Disgusting. I think it's not normal for people to go out and throw mud at each other. This is immoral. This is complete nonsense and idiocy, no matter how technical it is.

Why did Bird suddenly decide to do something disgusting, abnormal, immoral, complete nonsense and idiocy? Why was he just so against battles, and now he decided to call Guf?

Let's be honest: for the sake of hype. Because Ptakh’s clips get 200, 300, even 500 thousand views, because they are already accustomed to his attacks on everyone, and Versus with Guf are guaranteed 20 million views, a sharp increase in sales on digital platforms and the number of concerts.

Bird is preparing an album - the last one, if not a failure, then certainly didn’t work, and if the same fate befalls new release David, he will finally go to the bottom.

Main question: Why did Ptah keep Guf’s angry audio message for about a year and a half? Why didn’t he decide everything at once, on the spot, because he is such a fighter for justice and truth? Why did he come to Shock to find out everything face to face, but couldn’t go to Guf?

From the same interview:

– To be honest, have you ever had to betray a friend?

- No. And thank God. Never betrayed a friend. This is my big problem.

Is the problem probably resolved? How about posting a message for everyone to see that a friend (OK, even an “ex” best friend") addressed specifically to you, is this not betrayal? Is this concept necessary...

Bird kept this message as a straw that he could grab onto - they say, look, Lyosha offended me, now I am FORCED to call him! That’s true, but, firstly, why didn’t David immediately, like a man, solve the problem?

Secondly, we don’t know what made Guf send this message - after all, he didn’t write it down out of the blue, probably Ptah said something before that? In the end, since Ptah took the game to the level of a laundry basket, where is the guarantee that this was not a provocation? Guf's tirade was taken out of the conversation, and it is definitely impossible to evaluate it alone.

Finally, there is nothing out of the ordinary in Guf’s message; it sounds like the most ordinary quarrel between people who have known each other for a long time.

“And don’t shout like that anymore, otherwise you’re acting like a chick.” Is it a man’s act to put something that needs to be decided face to face for everyone to see? It’s possible to kick Obi in the balls, but it’s not possible to hit Guf, is he really needed for the battle?

How events can develop:

1. Guf accepts the challenge, Bird takes out new incriminating evidence from the caches, hoping to gain the upper hand due to the skeletons in the closet, Guf wins by one wicket, if only because it is true “I read better than you.”

Who will win: First of all, the Restaurateur.

2. Guf ignores Ptah, he continues to provoke him, releases the album “Daring”, in next year becomes the headliner of the DPR Coachella.

Who will win: Guf is definitely not losing.

3. Instead of going to the battle, Guf writes a diss on Ptah (perhaps work on it is already underway). The bird will answer, of course.

Who will win: the one who then releases a stronger album, and here, it seems, everything is clear again.

Recommendations for Ptah: prove everything musical material, release interesting album, experiment, in the end, and stop thinking of yourself as the conscience of Russian rap - after yesterday’s act, this is definitely not the case.

Finally, answer these questions for yourself: simple questions: Why did Bird close the ability to comment on YouTube? Why are there twice as many dislikes on videos as there are likes? And, finally, why should the second part of “Gusli” be released soon, and not “Ptasli”?

P.S. The column was written before, which, in principle, did not change anything - it only made it clear that Guf is ready to fight with anyone, at any time. Maybe this is what Bird wanted?

In August 2009 (36), better known under the pseudonym Guf, after a quarrel with Vadim Ylev (35) (Slim) And David Nuriev (35) (Birdie) left the group Centr, which appeared in 2004 and managed to win the love of thousands of fans. However, in 2013 the group reunited, and not so long ago a new studio album team " System" But along with this came new bad news: the team broke up again. And recently Guf spoke about the reasons for the next split.

Ptah, in one of his interviews, blamed Guf for the next breakup of the group. In his opinion, Alexey was irresponsible about his work. However, the rapper did not ignore his colleague’s statement and offered his version of events. “I was, of course, very “pleased” that again I was to blame for all this,” said Guf. - In fact, I made this decision a long time ago, even during the recording of the “System” album. I was not satisfied with absolutely everything, especially the framework and deadlines into which I was driven. In two months they forced me to write fifteen verses, but I can’t do that, I always need to think! Something has to happen in life before I write a verse, I can’t churn them out like pancakes.”

In addition, Guf believes that the reason for the unsuccessful reunion of the group was the low quality of the lyrics. “I think that while listening to the album, it’s clear that all the verses were written by me out of ***. Yes, I was not satisfied with Ptakh’s behavior, the group’s approach to work, behavior on tour, and so on. Apparently, over the years while we were in a quarrel, our views completely diverged. I felt terribly uncomfortable being around this person. Vadik and I expressed complaints to him about the reading and performance of his verses - I was absolutely not satisfied with what he was doing and how he treated the album. The result was an album like this, I don’t know, maybe someone likes it,” the rapper said.

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Tomorrow in St. Petersburg Versus will take place with the participation of Guf and Ptakhi, the first high-profile battle of 2018 with unprecedented by world standards prize fund- three million rubles. We recall the background to the conflict between two ex-Centr members, which developed over ten years.

- August 2009

The Centr group broke up, leaving the members in far from friendly relations. In the footsteps Guf collapse released the video “100 Lines”, quote: “If two ravens are sitting on your shoulders on the left and right sides, alternately pecking at your head, you can continue to pretend that you don’t care.”

Slim and Ptah responded with a clip “Spice baby”, an evil parody of Guf’s hit that was booming at the time (Ptah didn’t read in the song itself, but starred in the video).

Later in an interview with TV Jam Guf speaks, What The reason for the group’s disintegration was “not women or drugs,” but “some kind of envy, money, something else.”“The two participants probably didn’t have enough attention from the public.” Bird's version: this was led to by some mysterious events on June 6, 2009 in Lugansk.

- Autumn 2009

Ptah shows the clip “Old Age,” where he allegorically comments on the breakup of the group. “We need to live more correctly, but I’m sure that you wanted to think, just like me. The fact that TsAO are friends, not just words. That sometimes it's like family for others. I’m not a god, but I forgive you for the pain and intrigue.” The video stars Princip, Guf’s friend, and this can be regarded as trolling.

In an interview with Rap.ru, answering questions about future prospects Centr groups without Guf, Ptah says: “ I think that new album Centr will still be there. Maybe we can make peace and make it the three of us. Or maybe if we don’t make peace, we’ll make it three of us.”

- Spring 2012

Ptah and Slim came to the air of the “Minaev Live” program- a couple of months after graduation with Aiza and Guf. The question of the collapse of Centr arose here too, Slim and Ptah responded like this: The reason for the breakup of the group is a mythical “situation”.

Quote from Bird: “It was a breakthrough for me. My cap was running then. I personally did not share anything with anyone. There was a moment when it was necessary to take a serious step, which would still have led to the collapse of the group. This is a closed topic, I don’t want to talk about it. Tell true story the collapse of the Centr group is fucked up. I'm not ready for this second wave. There's a lot of dirt, underground stuff. I'm not ready for the second wave of throwing mud at each other. It was the people who perceived Guf as a leader. But we ourselves did not have such a concept - “leader”. I did promotion and PR. Vadim was responsible for the musical component. At that moment Lyosha was hanging around and writing texts.”

Quote from Slim: “The situation that happened then was the last straw. I have a mediocre relationship with her. It seems to me that Guf eventually left because, firstly, he understood that he would be in demand as a solo artist in the same way as in the Centr group. And that's a fact . Secondly, the relations within the group did not completely suit him. All this accumulated in a lumpy way, and eventually a situation arose after which we stopped communicating.”

- Autumn 2014

Centr members finally resolve the conflict. The group appears on the air “ Evening Urgant” and releases video “Turns”, in the plot of which Slim, Guf and Ptah peacefully come to the studio and eat pizza. Then, however, it turns out that Guf did not star in final scene, where all three go on stage - instead of him there was a double.

Ptah stars with Guf in the video “Killer City”. Quote from the song: “We have grown up, I am pleased that we managed to stop this swing without loss. Five years later we intelligently resumed communication.”

- June 2016

The album “System” is released, the last in the history of the group - after that it gives farewell concerts and breaks up again. It turns out that Guf is dissatisfied with his verses on the album, according to him, he was given two months to write 15 verses and he wrote them “to fuck off.”

In an interview with LIfe.ru, he also says that he didn't like Bird's reading and his work on stage.“I felt terribly uncomfortable being around this person. Vadik and I expressed complaints to him about the reading and performance of his verses - I was absolutely not satisfied with what he was doing and how he treated the album.”

Bird responds to these claims in an interview with The Flow. “Lyosha started to stress me out because I was partying. I chose a profession for myself so that I can hang out. I don’t think it’s anything terrible to go on stage with a joint and a bottle of whiskey. I'm a rapper. Not a pop artist, not something like that opera singer, I'm a rapper. This is normal for me. And when they try to tell me that I should work specifically... That’s it, as soon as I heard the word “work”, I say: “Okay. I’ll go play music, and you guys work.” We had a huge quarrel over this.”

- May 2017

Guf on the air “vDudya” teases Ptah. According to him, having participated in the Centr reunion, he gave his colleague a chance, but something went wrong.“When Centr broke up for the first time, it was a complex and murky story. Five years have passed and I think: somehow something has changed in people’s heads, probably.<....>We went on tour first with the old Centr program. And on these tours it turned out that I could not be with this person. I love him very much, he is my friend, but in everyday life and on tour it was unbearable.”

Also Guf, answering the question of how he attracts attention beautiful girls, says that you should ask Ptah about this - he has more girls.

- June-July 2017

Ptah releases the track “For the Repose”. There are no direct lines aimed at Guf, but there are veiled hints. In the frame, he crumples a drawing depicting the Disney character Goofy, right on the line “Smile and you will be good. Fuck that you’re an asshole at heart.”

A little later, he gives a fiery interview to the Ren TV channel. Guf’s personal life also becomes a reason for discussion.

Powerful quote: “I think he is a vile, two-faced, materialistic person. And also alphonsite. I've been a gigolo for half my life. He always chose the chick who was not more beautiful, but richer. A vile, two-faced, mercantile person who looks for his own benefit everywhere. I won’t be surprised that he will also sign up with Timati after throwing mud at him.” A couple of weeks later the premiere takes place joint clip Timati and Gufa “Generation”.

One of the brightest rappers in Russia, for whom “conflict” can be called a middle name.

Real name: David Nuriev
Creative pseudonym: Bird x Bore
Year of birth: 3.06.1981
City: Baku
Nationality: Azerbaijani
Height: 180 cm
Weight: 82 kg

The first part of the biography Birds () was dedicated his personal life and becoming. In the second part it is revealed conflict temperament that doesn't stop draw attention to Ptahe since 2008.

The first known conflict of Ptah began more than 10 years ago - in 2008.

Bird and Drago. Conflict 2008

In 2008,when battle rap was the prerogative of Internet platforms, and not a national phenomenon, rappersDrago, St1m'a and Serega a biting line hitsBirds from the track “About Love.”

Doesn't keep you waiting long Drago releasesdiss to Center(V to a greater extent onBirdie ), calling Center drug addicts. After which follows O a fight between two rappers in video format.

In the end, everything comes down to the fact that the attitudewe have to decide with our fists. Bird calling Drago to mixfight.

100 kg battle rapper Drago agrees,staging a fight in Ukraine. But Birdis not, hoping thatthat this is all kindergarten.

The collapse of the Center group - Why did Guf leave Centr?

Centercontinues to collectcrowds of thousands on tour,without foreshadowing anytroubles. But somewhere already insidea big conflict arises.

Bird and Guf quarrel with each other.Gufa not happy thatBird “hangs out” and doesn’t teachyour texts, A Birdie , What Guf Maybe disappear somewhere, forgetting about everything.To the point of not comingto shoot a video, where a film crew with paid equipment is waiting for him.

The atmosphere becomes tense when in 2009Center performs in Lugansk where it happens an event that forces Gufa to leave the group.

What happened inLugansk rappers are kept secret.What is known is that the conflicthappened at home and finally tipped the scales. Guf leaves Ccentral Vsolo creativity.

By untesteddata provided by twitter , Bird and Isa (ex-wife Gufa ) chatted on the phone about rather intimate topics. Having learned about thisGuf left the project and got divorced.

The group does not cease to exist. The basis remainsSlim and Bird.

The next three years pass relatively quietly. Bird manages to add another nickname for himself - Nerd and releasesAlbum “Cigarettes” 2010 and Album “Legends About…Centr ” 2011.

The rapper explains his pseudonym by saying that all his life he was a stubborn bore who loved to grumble.Cigarettes' album is different from creativity Birds good sadness, without melancholy inserts.

“I am sincerely happy about the success of my brothers. But I know that tomorrow each of them can betray me.”

Bird in the “Three Whales” Composition

In 2011, Bird throws a party in honor of his 30th anniversary, where as guestsRepresentatives of Bustazz Records are coming to MC— Gipsy King and Tato.

In the same year rappers together with Ptah They report that they are preparing an experimental album “ Three Whales" , which came out in 2012.

Bird and Shock (Schokk) - Conflict

In 2012 between Shock and Birdconflict begins to grow from skirmishes toTwitter. However, rappers solve the problem by meeting in person.

The bird scores the “arrow” withShockwhen he arrives inMoscow, getting the address where to go.Rappers meet andsolve problems verbally.

Their joint work was released in 2013.The clip shocked everyonebecause they were the maximum different representatives culture.

Ptah Albums “On the Bottoms” 2013 and “Fitova” 2015

Next couple of yearshave been relatively quiet in Bird's career. The rapper was delving into himself,experimenting with my creativity and gut.He gave up heavydrugs and alcohol.

Album released in 2013“Through the Bottoms”,which according toBirds , was tortured hundreds of hours.

He searched for every line, walking through Moscow courtyards and clubs, remembering the atmosphere of those days.

By the way, after a year and a halfthe long-promised collection will be released “ Fit ”, which will consist ofmany joint tracks, which were not previously included in releases.

Bird and Obe1 Kanobe Fight - Conflict between Bird and Obe1Kanobe

In 2014, the controversial rapper registers a second Twitter account,loading clips of dirt that instantly begin to pour out on the entire hip-hop community.

It's there Obiwan says that Center broke up becauseIsa wrote Ptahe intimate messages.

It hurts Birdie , he calls Obiwana to a meeting in Gorky Park, from whichthe first one refuses.

After which Bird finds him in the city wherenotably beats the rapper in a fair fight. This was recorded on video.

In turn, he gives an interview where he provides his version of events:

Ptah LDPR - Ptah's entry into the LDPR

Same year Bird decides to stir up interest in himself, V stepping into Zhirinovsky's LDPR party.

The rapper becomes a deputymunicipal significance of the village of Shishkin Les.

The solution he callsfun, and since then he has never appeared in the ranks of fellow party members.

“I realized that this is not mine. It was a joke for me. All my crazy antics like “running for parliament” are my fan.”

Merging the CENTR group

IN 2014 year follows an event that is blowing up the Internet again.

Guf, Slim and Ptah announce reunion of the group Centr.

Bird says that one dayI woke up in the morning and realized that he was tired of these graters.

Bird suggested Gufu make peace. In a couple of hoursSlim I was already on my way to the apartmentGufu , anticipating joyful reunion of the group.

“Be yourself, keep faith in your soul.”

Ptah, Basta and Oksimiron - Conflict

In one of the interviewsBird spoke unflatteringly about the labelBasty “ Gas holder” and creativity

The reason was thatBird believed thatGas holder took And famous artists, after which about them any information in the media disappeared. A Oksimiron— technical ms,but there is not even a drop of real rap in it.

Reply from Bastyshould release withdrawal Birds from ITunes , which hostedparticipation of rappers from the Gazgolder label.

Dedicated Ptahe line in the track:

“ Bird says I don't have rap in me - okay, my rap doesn't have Bird in me ”

Conflict between Bird and the Anti-Diller movement

In 2015 Gufa and Slim detained in Krasnoyarsk for several days due tosuspected of possession and use of narcotic substances, based on movement “Anti-dealer”.

In the same year Bird expresses a note of support to his friends,speaking at the Moscow club “16 tons” with a provocative speech.He stated that the police would only help"Not good good people”, calling for writing obscene language on traffic cars.

This became the reasonfor a response.In 2016 in the rapper's apartmenta search is carried out that does not reveal anything illegal.

The rapper is on trial for humiliation of dignity and incitement of hatred or enmity “against a group of persons united on the basis of “assisting law enforcement agencies in searching for and apprehending criminals.”

On Birdie a case is being opened under the article282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, depriving him of the opportunity leave Moscow.

The rapper was sentencedobliging him to pay a fine of200 000 rubles

Ptah – Concerts in Donbass

Bird never did not hide his anti-Ukrainian position, caused by revolution of 2014.

In 2016 rapper visited Lugansk and Donetskwith concerts, having received a citizen’s passport of the self-proclaimed “LPR” and, taking this opportunity,shot at the range.

As a result Ptahe was banned entry to Ukraineat the legislative level,because his actions are considered extremism and a violation of the integrity of Ukraine.

“Even in the cafes there are signs that you can’t enter with weapons. You know, there are signs with dogs and ice cream crossed out. And there the Kalashnikov assault rifle is crossed out.”

New album of the Centr group “System” 2016

2 years after the mergerCenter releases his third album “System” 2016.

The release was warmly received by the public, although it did not cause the hype of previous years.

“Not a bad point. But there is too much about cops. Maybe this came after the story with Krasnoyarsk. "

Disintegration of the Center group - Second disintegration of the Centr group

In April 2016,a couple of hours before my concert,Center once again announced as a listenerabout the end of his creative path, which will henceforth besolo.

In the first couple of rappersthey called it a decision detached fromconflicts, but soon Details began to emerge.

“I made a lot of noise. Vadik is a complete production. He cut, sheared, moved it all in the studio. Lyosha? Lyosha, as a rule, came, wrote something and left. I created all the noise around the group: all sorts of scandals, pulling out. This is what I did."

Bird vs Guf on Versus Battle

Several videos fromGufa where is the rapper n being in a not very sober state, cuts the truth to the womb.

To one of the questions he answers that he will come out withBirdie for a battle for 2 million rubles. Initially Bird notified who wants half ofany amount requestedGuf .

Autumn 2017 Restaurateur officially confirmed, what a battle - to be!

Battle between Guf and Ptah n will be released in January, and the release will most likely be a month later.

“I’m not going to win, but to say and hear the unsaid.”

Ptah - Conflict with Navalny

In March, a wave of protests swept across Russia,associated with the condemnation of the oppositionpresidential candidate Alexei Navalny.

Youth entered into confrontation with intelligence services. It worked out without bloodshed. In honor of this Bird released a video supporting the regime of the current government, calling the protesters “majors".

This was the reasoninciting hatred towards the rapper.Many listenersrecognized the so-called government order in the track. But Bird continues to deny this information.

“Patriotism is a clear understanding that this is your land, your family, your friends. It's all behind you. Patriotism is supporting your country. For example, I refused to travel to Ukraine not because I don’t like it. I love her very much. I have many friends there. This was a fundamental moment."

Dissolution of TsAO Records

In March 2017 Bird announces complete dissolution and closureTsAO Records.

Bird and Grandson - Conflict

In August, one of the members of the formerCentral Administrative Districtmakes a loud statement thatBird didn't pay money to his artists and illegally sold marijuana.

Answer Birds was like that moneypaid based on earnings and for all the time Vnuk sold material only for2 thousand rubles.For concerts and festivals to everyonethey paid correctly.

“In all my time with the Central Administrative District, I have not received anything in terms of earnings. The Central Administrative District never brought any money. Sometimes I even invest money in it to keep it afloat. It is necessary to hire a team of professionals, command them, control the process - and I was not ready for this story. That’s why TsAO is not a label, but a get-together.”

Ptah – Jewelry Brand “Bronnitsky Jeweler”

Early 2018 it became known that Bird became a representative of a jewelry brand “Bronnitsky Jeweler”.

It was announced together with the rapper line of jewelry called “Lyrics”(Songs).

"Lyrics"- this is a state of mind: sometimes positive, sometimes negative, but always sensual"

Bird. Our days

Not long ago Bird presented his new album“Cheerful” 2017.

The rapper said that he will gradually move away from hip-hop,experimenting with such genreslike jazz and blues. They were close to himsince childhood. The world continues keep an eye on interesting character and wait for the third reunion of the Center 😉

Bird. Interesting facts

• The rapper admits that he acts first and thinks later
• Doesn't hide the fact that he smokes weed
• Be ashamed of your song “Cats”
• Likes SLOVO more than Versus
• Have memory problems
• Addicted to social networks
• Records tracks exclusively at night

On Tuesday, February 6, the 1703 bar hosted battle Versus rappers Guf (Alexey Dolmatov) and Ptakhi (David Nuriev). For participation, Guf asked for 2 million rubles, Ptah - 1 million. These are one of the largest fees in Russian battle rap. The results of the battle have not yet been officially announced.

In the 2000s, Guf and Ptakha were part of the Centr group and wrote tracks together. When Guf left the group, the rappers began to release diss songs against each other and talk about the breakup in interviews. In 2014 they united again and again - this time finally - separated.

"Paper" tells the backstory of one of the most expensive and anticipated rap battles, which the host of Versus Restaurateur calls “a battle about nothing,” some viewers call it “a deal,” and others call it “one of the oldest conflicts in Russian rap.”

Photo: Vadim Motylev

Guf and Ptah have known each other since 2000. They quarreled after Guf left their common group

Rappers Guf and Ptah met on the set clip group "Casta" "We take it on the streets." How their relationship developed at that time is not known for certain. In 2007, as part of the Centr group, they released the album “Swing,” which tells about life and experience of using hard drugs.

At that time, the group, considered underground, became popular throughout Russia: in 2007–2009, rappers gathered venues of 4–5 thousand people in Moscow, won MTV Russia 2008 in the “Hip-Hop” category and released two albums and five clips.

Unexpectedly for fans, in August 2009, Dolmatov announced his departure from the group and gave interview, in which he explained this by saying that “the two participants probably did not have enough attention, the public” and they were guided by “some kind of envy, money, something else.” By official version, the reason for the artist’s departure was “the events of June 6, 2009 in Lugansk” - there are still rumors among fans about what happened then. Later, Guf will only say that on that day “a boiling point was reached within the group,” and Ptah will refuse to explain anything, “fearing for Guf’s moral and mental health.”

The video was filmed after Guf left the group. Dolmatov did not meet either Ptah or Slim during filming

Soon Guf published clip “100 lines”, where he compared former members groups with “two crows pecking at your head.” In response to this, Ptah and Slim (another member of the Centr group) released Spice Baby video - a parody of hit(only one of the uploaded videos on YouTube has more than 3.5 million views) Guf Ice Baby, which he dedicated to his wife.

After this, the artists practically did not remember the conflict either in interviews or in tracks. Guf was actively involved solo career, and Ptah and Slim - by the group Centr.

In 2014, the rappers reconciled and began performing at Centr again. But they had a fight two years later

As Guf explained in an interview with Life his reconciliation with Ptakha, the latter called him in the fall of 2014 “to support him after his divorce from his wife.” According to Dolmatov, this touched him, and they made peace. Soon Guf again joined the Centr group.

From 2014 to 2016, they released an album together, which immediately entered the top iTunes, published two videos and gave more than 20 concerts. Concert activities The group was interrupted when Guf and Slim were detained during a Federal Drug Control Service operation after their concert and sentenced to five and six days of arrest, respectively, for drug use.

On April 30, 2016, the group gave its last scheduled concert and, unexpectedly for fans, announced its final breakup.

It later turned out that Guf was the initiator of the breakup: he explained that he did not like his own verses on the album, which the rapper, according to him, was given two weeks to prepare. He also added that he could not work well with Ptah. “Vadik (Slim) and I - approx. "Papers") expressed to him (Ptah - approx. "Papers") claims regarding the reading and performance of his verses. I was absolutely not happy with what he was doing and how he treated the album,” said Guf.

Ptah said that it was he who could not work well with Guf:

Lesha started to stress me out because I was partying. I chose a profession for myself so that I can hang out. I don’t think it’s anything terrible to go on stage with a joint and a bottle of whiskey. I'm a rapper. And when they try to tell me that I should work specifically... That’s it, as soon as I heard the word “work,” I said: “Okay. I’ll go play music, and you guys work.” We had a huge quarrel over this.

Later, Guf in an interview on the “vDud” program spoke about Ptah as “a friend with whom it was unbearable in everyday life and on tour,” and Ptah, in an interview with Ren TV, called Guf “a vile, two-faced person, mercantile, and also a gigolo.”

In 2017, the rappers agreed to a battle. The restaurateur decided to spend 3 million rubles on it

In September 2017, rapper Ptah on the YouTube channel of the TsAO Records label